adajking: hey mr pedone, wat makes a good poll again?
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me: good poll: large sample, random sample, no self-selection, neutral wording...
michaeldavidson2012: and Joe. I could've been deaf and answered that question.
tran.seph: you hadd
mad*
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me: 2 mins.
7:59 PM michaeldavidson2012: Correct your spelling before you come at me.
me: gentlemen, maintain decorum.
adajking: cool stuff, thanks
Lisa: how many choices can our questions have?
michaeldavidson2012: 5
me: 5.
Lisa: thank you
michaeldavidson2012: A-E Lisa.
8:00 PM me: ok. caps lock ENGAGE.
michaeldavidson2012: The alphabet is our friend.
AHAHAHA
me: WELCOME TO THE CHAT.
TOMORROW'S EXAM IS 20 MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTIONS AND ONE FRQ.
8:01 PM EVERY QUESTION ON THE EXAM RELATES DIRECTLY TO UNIT I: CONSTITUTIONAL UNDERPINNINGS.
WHERE WOULD WE LIKE TO START?
michaeldavidson2012: Because you made the FRQ, I find it completely reasonable for you to give us the topic of the FRQ...
anirajones: agreed
adajking: agreed x2
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tran.seph: are all of the answers directly from the packet or will there be some questions where we'd have to pay attention in class to know answer to?
me: LATECOMERS!
abell2012: sorry!
bribooker93: Sorry I just got off of work!
8:03 PM me: THE PACKET IS AN EXCELLENT BASE OF INFORMATION. HOWEVER THE AP EXAM ASKS YOU TO USE THIS INFO IN ABSTRACT WAYS.
..SOOO....BOTH I GUES..
SOMEONE THROW OUT A FEW TOPICS....
michaeldavidson2012: Hmm, Pedone is trying to dodge my request...
8:04 PM Lisa: i don't think we have a problem with the information, but we might struggle with using it in abstract ways
me: WE ARE A LARGE GROUP TONIGHT, SO LET'S KEEP THE CONVERSATION ON TASK.
I AGREE, LISA.
LET'S TALK ABOUT BIG IDEAS FROM UNIT I.
8:05 PM I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE SHIFT FROM ELITISM TO POPULISM IN CLASS TODAY...
anirajones: constitutional clauses
adajking: LETS TALK PHILOSOPHERS. I LIKE PHILOSOPHY :)
8:06 PM me: ANOTHER LARGE CONCEPT FROM UNIT I IS DEFINING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN STATES AND CENTRAL GOV'TS.
michaeldavidson2012: Clauses would be a good start actually...
me: CONST. CLAUSES DID A LOT TO REFINE THIS RELATIONSHIP.
FOR EXAMPLE: SUPREMACY CLAUSE OF THE CONST. WHAT DID IT DO.......
?
8:07 PM tran.seph: define that the fed govt is above state?
michaeldavidson2012: What central government says is law. Essentially.
anirajones: national law is stronger
8:08 PM adajking: yeah, nat'l law is stronger
me: GOOD. IT ESTABLISHED FEDERAL LAW AS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. THIS HELPED ARRANGE THE GOVT'S.
THE ELASTIC (NECESSARY & PROPER) CLAUSE: WHAT DID IT DO?
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Lisa: allowed congress to pass laws that would fulfill their enumerated powers
tran.seph: give the central govt more power by allowing them to pass laws that are neccessary for them to carry out previous orders
8:09 PM me: GOOD. HOW DID IT HELP REFINE FEDERALISM? (RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN STATES AND CENTRAL?)
8:10 PM michaeldavidson2012: It defined central governments power.
me: MORE SPECIFICALLY, GAVE MORE POWER TO THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT.
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8:11 PM IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE TENTH AMENDMENT AND THE ELASTIC CLAUSE SOMETIMES GIVE UP CONFLICTING ADVICE.
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THIS IS WHY THE TENTH AMENDMENT IS RARELY INTERPRETED CONSISTENTLY BY THE SCOTUS.
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CAN WE TALK COMPROMISES?
michaeldavidson2012: Sure.
abell2012: ok
anirajones: yup
Lisa: kay
8:12 PM me: THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION WAS A SWIRLING MASS OF ANGRY DUDES IN POWDERED WIGS.
LOTS OF THREATS. LOTS OF SHOUTING.
STATES THREATENED TO LEAVE. RHODE ISLAND WOULDN'T EVEN SHOW UP.
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8:13 PM IN ORDER TO CREATE A NEW FUNCTIONAL CONSTITUTION, COMPROMISE WAS NECESSARY.
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8:14 PM I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT LIKE A FIGHT CARD AT A BOXING MATCH: BOUT 1: BIG STATES V. SMALL STATES.
BIG STATES WANTED PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION, SMALL STATES WANTED 2 REPS PER STATE.
THE COMPROMISE WAS A BICAMERAL LEGISLATURE.
8:15 PM .....
BOUT 2: AGRICULTURAL STATES VS. NON AGRICULTURAL STATES.
8:16 PM AG STATES WANTED SLAVES TO COUNT FOR REP. NON AG STATES DIDN'T.
RESULT? 3/5 COMPROMISE. SLAVES COUNTED AS 3/5 OF A PERSON WHEN CALCULATING REPS.
8:17 PM ..........
MAIN EVENT!!!! FEDERALISTS V. ANTIFEDERALISTS.
THERE ARE TWO MAIN COMPROMISES BETWEEN THESE TWO. WHAT ARE THEY?
tran.seph: bill of rights
8:18 PM me: GOOD. &?
HELLOOOO?
BILL OF RIGHTS.....AND?
tran.seph: uhhh im thinking
phinguyenper.8: thinking
Lisa: the constitution?
8:19 PM tran.seph: youve told us this before
me: LISA....THESE ARE ALL COMPROMISES IN THE CONSITUTION.
THE ANSWER I'M LOOKING FOR IS.....
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4 YEAR TERM LIMITS FOR PRESIDENT
michaeldavidson2012: _
Lisa: oh
tran.seph: -_-"
phinguyenper.8: _
8:20 PM me: ANTIFEDERALISTS WERE AFRAID OF A STRONG CENTRAL GOV _ ERNMENT.
SO THEY WANTED A ONE YEAR PRES.
michaeldavidson2012: What was that?
me: FEDERALISTS WANTED A LIFE TERM.
COMPROMISE : UNLIMITED 4 YEAR TERMS.
8:21 PM phinguyenper.8: oh ok
me: ANTIFEDERALISTS ALSO REFUSED TO RATIFY THE CONST. WITHOUT A BILL OF RIGHTS ATTACHED.
michaeldavidson2012: yes.
me: THAT IS WHY THE BILL OF RIGHTS ARE AMENDMENTS AND NOT IN THE CONST. PROPER.
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8:22 PM MANY OF THESE COMPROMISES HAD THE SIDE EFFECT OF REINFORCING THE IDEA OF A LIMITED GOV'T. HOW?
8:23 PM ...TICK, TICK....
tran.seph: it gave more power to the state/citizens. and it prevented the government from becoming a tyrant?
it protect state's rights
8:24 PM me: LET'S TAKE THE CONNECTICUT COMPROMISE FOR EXAMPLE. HOW DID THAT LIMIT THE POWER OF THE CENTRAL GOV'T?
8:25 PM Lisa: created a bicameral
tran.seph: it gave states more representation in gvoernemt therefore helping with checks and balences?
me: GOOD JOE.
Lisa: in which the House was directly selected by the people
me: AND LISA.
phinguyenper.8: uhm bicameral legislature and that the HOR were directly elected which represented the states
hong.thi.nguyen.17: it's slow?
me: EXCELLENT HONG.
THAT'S WAHT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
8:26 PM THE CONN. COMPROMISE HAD THE SIDE EFFECT OF DRASTICALLY SLOWING DOWN THE CENTRAL GOV'T BECAUSE OF THE BICAMERAL LEGISLATURE.
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HOW DID THE BILL OF RIGHTS LIMIT THE CENTRAL GOVT? (DUH?)
Lisa: gave a bunch of rights to the people?
8:27 PM tran.seph: fed govt couldnt infringe on state/people's rights
Lisa: and protected them
tran.seph: and power not mentioned in the constitution is given to the state
phinguyenper.8: 10th amendment
tran.seph: except when the fed govt uses the elastic clause
me: GOOD GOOD.
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TOPIC SUGGESTION?
8:28 PM HOW ABOUT WE HEAR FROM SOMEONE BESIDES JOE, MIKE, LISA OR HONG?
OR PHI?
tran.seph: federalist papers?
8:29 PM me: THE FEDERALIST PAPERS IS BASICALLY JAMES MADISON TRYING TO TALK US INTO THE CONSTITUTION.
HIS MAIN ARGUMENTS: PEOPLE ARE NOT ANGELS. WE NEED GOVERNMENT. WE CAN KEEP FACTIONS IN CHECK WITH CHECKS AND BALANCES.
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8:30 PM REMEMBER, MADISON GOES ON TO ARCHITECT THE CONSTITUTION HIMSELF.
jennylamx93: annapolis convention? just because i see it in the list of vocab =x
8:31 PM phinguyenper.8: thats it bout the federalist papers?
:x
8:32 PM me: ANNAPOLIS CONVENTION WAS 5 STATES GETTING TOGETHER TO SAY "THAT'S IT. NO MORE ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION. WE NEED A NEW GOV'T"
phinguyenper.8: which 5 states?
me: HAPPENED IN 1786? ISH?
8:33 PM poptarts600: shays rebellion?
me: DOESN'T MATTER....NY,NJ,PA,DE, VA
DONT WORRY ABOUT THE STATES
phinguyenper.8: Ok
me: SHAYS REBELLION WAS A REBELLION IS MASSACHUSETTS THAT POINTED OUT THE PROBLEMS WITH THE ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION.
8:34 PM SPECIFICALLY, THE LACK OF A CENTRAL MILITARY AND CURRENCY.
AFTER SHAYS REBELLION, THE STATES DECIDE TO CALL A CONST. CONVENTION TO FIX IT.
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8:35 PM WHAT ARE CONCURRENT POWERS?
tran.seph: are we allow to answer?
me: YA
phinguyenper.8: Powers that both central gov't and states have?
8:36 PM me: ^GOOD
NAME THREE.
tran.seph: tax
me: THATS 1
hong.thi.nguyen.17: courts?
me: CLOSE HONG, WHAT SPECIFICALLY?
Lisa: regulate commerce
8:37 PM me: NOPE. ONLY THE CENTRAL GOVT CAN REGULATE INTERSTATE COMMERCE.
2. BUILDING ROADS.
tran.seph: pass laws?
me: 3. CREATING LAWS
phinguyenper.8: hold elections?
me: 4. ENFORCING LAWS.
5. HOLD ELECTIONS.
GOOD, PHI.
8:38 PM ...........
tran.seph: wait so what about courts?
me: CAN I GET FIVE ENUMERATED POWERS OF THE PRESIDENTS?
(JOE: ENFORCE LAWS, PROSECUTE CRIMINALS)
Lisa: commander in chief
jennylamx93: war
me: THATS 1
8:39 PM hong.thi.nguyen.17: veto
me: JENNY: NO. CONGRESS DECLARES WAR.
michaeldavidson2012: Treaty
me: VETO, YES.
abell2012: negotiate treaties
hong.thi.nguyen.17: pardons?
me: NEGOTIATING TREATIES, YES.
PARDONS, YES.
ALSO: APPOINTING JUDGES AND AMBASSADORS.
phinguyenper.8: and have um ambassadors
yea
me: STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS.
8:40 PM RECEIVING HEADS OF STATE
COMMISIONING OFFICERS
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FIVE POWERS ENUMERATED TO CONGRESS?
tran.seph: taxe
Lisa: tax
8:41 PM michaeldavidson2012: Go to war
tran.seph: impeach
Lisa: post office
hong.thi.nguyen.17: borrow money
tran.seph: create money
me: SOLID ANSWERS GUYS.
hong.thi.nguyen.17: raise an army?
tran.seph: approve appointments
me: GOOD, GOOD
ALSO, THE POWER TO ESTABLISH LOWER COURTS IS IMPROTANT.
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8:42 PM WHAT IS JUDICIAL REVIEW?
hong.thi.nguyen.17: Supreme Court can declare Congress's laws unconstitutional?
me: YES.....ALSO PRESIDENTIAL ACTIONS.
tran.seph: its when the surpreme count can rule on a case and every other court under neath it must obey
8:43 PM michaeldavidson2012: Why do I feel that Joe has his study guide with him.
tran.seph: that would be cheating
me: JOE, NOPE. THAT IS STARE DESCISIS
michaeldavidson2012: Exactly.
8:44 PM me: IS JUDICIAL REVIEW IN THE CONSTITUTION?
tran.seph: nope
me: NOPE IS CORRECT.
WHERE DID JUDICIAL REVIEW COME FROM?
8:45 PM hong.thi.nguyen.17: Marbury v. Madison?
me: HONG IS CORRECT.
MARBURY V. MADISON ESTABLISHED JUDICIAL REVIEW.
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phinguyenper.8: oh are supreme court cases going to be on the test?
8:46 PM me: JUST MARBURY V. MADISON AND GIBBONS V. OGDEN.
WHAT IS GIBBONS V. OGDEN?
hong.thi.nguyen.17: only federal govt can regulate trade?
Lisa: gave congress the right to regulate interestate commerce
me: SPECIFICALLY INTERSTATE.
8:47 PM THE CONST. GAVE IT THE RIGHT, GIBBONS REINFORCED THAT RIGHT.
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AMENDMENT TROUBLE?
Lisa: can states regulate trade?
jennylamx93: nope
sample questions? =)
8:48 PM tran.seph: ^^
phinguyenper.8: ^^
me: STATES CAN REGULATE TRADE WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES.
Lisa: oh so wouldn't regulating trade be a concurrent power?
8:49 PM me: TECHNICALLY, YES. HOWEVER IF THE AP TEST ASKS YOU FOR SOME, JUST SAY "TAXES AND ROADS" AND BE DONE WITH IT.
HOLD FOR SAMPLE QUESTION.
Lisa: lol okay
michaeldavidson2012: Seriously? I wouldn't consider that.
Cause they aren't regulating the same trade technically.
8:50 PM me: DO NOT ALL ANSWER UNTIL I GIVE THE OK....GO.
9) Which best describes a method for amending the United States Constitution?
(a) Approval by a simple majority in each
House and the President
(b) Approval by a 2/3 vote in each House
and 3/4 of the State Legislatures
(c) Approval by a simple majority in each
House and a simple majority of
Supreme Court Justices
(d) Approval by a 2/3 vote in the Senate
and the President
(e) Approval by a 2/3 vote in each House
and a simple majority of the State
Legislatures
(a) Approval by a simple majority in each
House and the President
(b) Approval by a 2/3 vote in each House
and 3/4 of the State Legislatures
(c) Approval by a simple majority in each
House and a simple majority of
Supreme Court Justices
(d) Approval by a 2/3 vote in the Senate
and the President
(e) Approval by a 2/3 vote in each House
and a simple majority of the State
Legislatures
8:51 PM OK..........GO
michaeldavidson2012: B
tran.seph: b
hong.thi.nguyen.17: B
poptarts600: b
me: GOOD. WHICH IS THE "RIGHT WRONG ANSWER" (THE CLOSEST)
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abell2012: b
Lisa: b
abell2012: ohh..sorry
8:52 PM tran.seph: a would be the right wrong?
michaeldavidson2012: E>
?
Lisa: i think e would be the right wrong
me: B IS CORRECT. E IS ALMOST CORRECT.
GOOD.
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HOW ARE WE FEELING ABOUT AMENDMENTS 11-27?
phinguyenper.8: GREAT
me: LAME DUCK? SUCCESSION?
michaeldavidson2012: Easy.
tran.seph: lame duck is 20
michaeldavidson2012: I got tips.
8:53 PM me: TIPS: GO
michaeldavidson2012: 23= 3 elect for D.C
Can't drink at 18, but you can at 21.
Lisa: crap, what's lame duck again?
me: 18TH AND 21ST GOOD
michaeldavidson2012: Seventeen matches with Senators.
Double S's
20 matchs with the 20th of January.
8:54 PM 13-15 mostly about African Americans.
me: LISA: THE LAME DUCK PERIOD IS THE TIME BETWEEN THE ELECTION AND INAUGURATION WHEN THE OUTGOING PRESIDENT IS VIRTUALLY POWERLESS....A "LAME DUCK".
Lisa: oh right
8:55 PM me: THE 20TH AMENDMENT MOVED UP INAUGURATION TO JAN. 20TH TO REDUCE LAME DUCK TIME.
GOOD TIPS MIKE.
michaeldavidson2012: Thank you.
me: FIVE MINS LEFT. ANY LAST TOPICS?
tran.seph: frq topic!
8:56 PM michaeldavidson2012: Yes please.
Since you made it, we are at a bigger disadvantage.
me: THE FRQ TOPIC IS CONSTITUTIONAL UNDERPINNINGS.
michaeldavidson2012: MORE SPECIFIC...
me: MIKE: DISAGREE. I MADE IT B/C I TAUGHT IT.
tran.seph: what pages in our cookbook should we go over for the frq :D
hong.thi.nguyen.17: do we need to know the things not mentioned in the constitution?
8:57 PM me: JOE: EVERYTHING BUT THE COVER.
HONG. YES.
tran.seph: ^ funny
me: MOST IMPORTANTLY: NO POLITICAL PARTIES.
michaeldavidson2012: ?
me: NO PARTIES IN THE CONSTITUTION.
michaeldavidson2012: oh.
8:58 PM tran.seph: i have a feeling that either the elitism-popiularism or things not mentioned in the constitution will be the frq...
michaeldavidson2012: Hmmm.
me: STUDY EVERYTHING TO BE SAFE.
michaeldavidson2012: That was our hint today in class.
8:59 PM Lisa: whwat's the 11th amendment again?
tran.seph: cant sue a diff state
michaeldavidson2012: Can't sue a state you're not from.
me: YUP.
tran.seph: 12th amentment is prez and vp cant be from same state
michaeldavidson2012: Yup.
tran.seph: whats the 24 and 25?
Lisa: that's the immunity clause thing too right?
michaeldavidson2012: My tip for that is.
me: 9, 10, 11 AND 12 ARE THE WEIRDEST ONES.
michaeldavidson2012: 12 = 1 and 2 heads of state.
me: 14 IS MOST IMPORTANT.
9:00 PM hong.thi.nguyen.17: 24- poll taxes
25- presidential succession
25- presidential succession
me: WHAT THREE ELEMENTS OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT ARE MOST IMPORTANT?
hong.thi.nguyen.17: natural born citizen
equal protection
Lisa: citizenship clause
michaeldavidson2012: Selective incorp.
hong.thi.nguyen.17: selective incorporation
michaeldavidson2012: Equal and Natural.
tran.seph: selecgtive incorporation
me: YES.
9:01 PM WITH THAT, I BID YOU GOODNIGHT. STUDY. STUDY. STUDY.
I WILL POST THE CHAT TO THE BLOG.
hong.thi.nguyen.17: do we need to know the five elements of the fifth amendment too?
tran.seph: Goodnight. Gl everyone
michaeldavidson2012: Good Night Mr.Pedone.
YES
me: HONG. YEA.
jennylamx93: goodnight
me: THANKS GUYS. NICE WORK TONIGHT.
tran.seph: REMINDER EVERYONE
hong.thi.nguyen.17: good night
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