me: ONE MINUTE. ROLL CALL PLEASE.....
mills242: here
phinguyenper.8: here
Lisa: here
jennylamx93: here
anirajones: here
samaralcancel: Here
stephanie.tania94: here
tieraclark: here
ahoye95: present
maamarbousseloub: here
7:30 PM me: LET'S BEGIN.
7:31 PM THE EXAM WILL CONSIST OF 31 MC QUESTIONS AND AN FRQ.
WHERE SHALL WE BEGIN?
7:32 PM mills242: for the civil rights section we just need to know court cases?
ahoye95: Are there any specific court dates that we should know.?
court cases*
me: YOU NEED TO KNOW THE AMENDMENTS (1-10)
YOU NEED TO KNOW AMENDMENT 14 INSIDE AND OUT.
mills242: okay
7:33 PM me: YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW THE 14TH AMENDMENT CAUSED SELECTIVE INCORPORATION
AND YOU NEED TO KNOW SOME RELATIVE COURT CASES.
SHALL WE TAKE IT AMENDMENT BY AMENDMENT?
7:34 PM mills242: yes
ahoye95: yes
Lisa: sure
mills242: and how did it cause it?
7:35 PM me: AMENDMENT 1: R.A.P.P.S: FREEDOM OF RELIGION, ASSEMBLY, PRESS, PETITION AND SPEECH.
me: CAN ANYONE GIVE A RELATIVE COURT CASE?
7:36 PM anirajones: sullivan v. NYT
Lisa: tinker
me: GOOD.
tieraclark: TLO v. Ohio
me: @ TIERA... TLO V. NJ IS A 4TH AMENDMENT CASE.
LETS SKIP 2 AND 3 (GUNS AND QUARTERING)
7:37 PM AMENDMENT 4: NO ILLEGAL SEARCHES AND SEIZURES.
RELEVANT CASES?
anirajones: would veronia v acton count ?
tieraclark: TLO?
me: BOTH, YES.
7:38 PM Lisa: mapp v. ohio
me: MAPP V. OHIO AS WELL. YUP.
7:39 PM ahoye95: fourth amendement is not double jeopardy as well.?
mills242: thats 5th i think
Lisa: that's the fifth
me: 5TH AMENDMENT DOES A FEW THINGS: SELF INCRIMINATION, DOUBLE JEOPARDY, DUE PROCESS, EMINENT DOMAIN.
ahoye95: okay. thanks
7:40 PM me: WHAT ARE THOSE?
mills242: double jeopardy cant get trialed for the same crime
me: TRUE.
7:41 PM ahoye95: eminent domain is the houses being sold to government for propertty?
me: ALIYAH, YEAH.
anirajones: ur miranda rights
mills242: slef incrimation must be read your rights?
slef
self
me: EMINENT DOMAIN IS WHEN THE GOVT BUYS PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC USE (HIGHWAYS, ETC.)
me: SELF INCRIMINATION: YOU CANNOT BE FORCED TO TESTIFY AGAINST YOURSELF.
ALSO, YES, MIRANDA RIGHTS.
7:43 PM HOW ABOUT DUE PROCESS?
mills242: not sure
7:44 PM me: NO ONE CAN BE DEPRIVED RIGHTS WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF THE LAW... MEANING EVERYONE GETS THEIR DAY IN COURT.
6TH AMENDMENT ALSO HAS A FEW THINGS:
7:45 PM 6TH: RIGHT TO A SPEEDY TRIAL, IMPARTIAL JURY, RIGHT TO FACE ACCUSER AND RIGHT TO A LAWYER.
jennylamx93: what about amendments that are incorporated and not
me: JENNY, WE'LL GET THERE.
jennylamx93: ok
7:46 PM me: WHAT ABOUT THE 7TH AMENDMENT?
jennylamx93: trial
by jury?
me: YES, TRIAL BY JURY.
phinguyenper.8: i thought that was 6
7:47 PM oh nevermind
jennylamx93: was there cases of that
me: 6 IS A PUBLIC AND SPEEDY TRIAL.
7 IS "BY JURY"
abell2012: ohh, yeahq that one will get cha
7:48 PM phinguyenper.8: ok cool, got it now.
me: ASHLEY. TAKE OFF YOUR OVEN MITTS.
8TH AMENDMENT?
abell2012: hey! just a little mishap
stephanie.tania94: bail; no "cruel and unusual" punishments
tran.seph: cruel and unusal uynishment
me: GOOD, GOOD.
7:49 PM REMEMBER 8TH AMEND. ONLY APPLIES TO CRIMINALS BEING PUNISHED BY THEIR GOVT.
jennylamx93: wait is ex post facto part of this ?
me: EX POST FACTO IS ACTUALLY IN THE CONSTITUTION PROPER...NOT THE AMENDMENTS.
jennylamx93: ok
me: WHO KNOWS WHAT EX POST FACTO IS?
7:50 PM tieraclark: does this have anything to do w/ punishment in school?
8th amend
me: TIERA....YES.
EX POST FACTO?
stephanie.tania94: a law that makes an act criminal although the act was legal when it was committed
Lisa: what step said
ahoye95: you can't have evidence after teh trial
me: TRUE STEF.
7:51 PM PERFECT EXAMPLE...LAST WEEK I PARKED ON 11TH STREET AND WENT INTO SCHOOL.
WHEN I CAME OUT, THERE WAS A 2 HOUR PARKING SIGN ON THE BLOCK.
7:52 PM I DID NOT GET A TICKET.
EX POST FACTO!
THE SIGN WAS POSTED AFTER I PARKED.
jennylamx93: mmmhmmmm
abell2012: you got lucky!
me: TRUE STORY.
7:53 PM OK OK. 8TH AMEND. NO EXCESSIVE BAIL.
mills242: any sample ?'s
me: TERRELL. MAYBE LATER.
ALSO, 8TH AMENDMENT.....NO "GROSS DISCREPANCY". MEANING THAT THE CRIME AND THE PUNISHMENT MUST BE NEARLY EQUAL.
7:54 PM jennylamx93: ohhh
ok
me: LETS TALK 9TH AND 10TH:
stephanie.tania94: unenumerated rights protected for 9th?
tran.seph: anything not in the constitution goes the to state?
me: 9TH: THE RIGHTS INCLUDED IN 1-8 ARE NOT THE ONLY RIGHTS WE HAVE AS PEOPLE.
abell2012: 9: rights in the 8th does not qualify to everyone?
7:55 PM phinguyenper.8: is 10 anything not mentioned in the constitution is handled by the states?
me: 10TH: THANKS PHI.
NOW WE NEED TO JUMP TO THE MOST IMPORTANT AMENDMENT.
NUMBER 14!
jennylamx93: citizenshipp
7:56 PM tran.seph: Every american citizen is protected equally?
phinguyenper.8: due process and equal protection
clauses
me: CITIZENSHIP CLAUSE: BORN HERE = CITIZENSHIP
7:57 PM DUE PROCESS CLAUSE: STATES CANNOT DEPRIVE RIGHTS WITHOUT DUE PROCESS (BASIS FOR INCORPORATION).
7:58 PM EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE: EACH PERSON GETS THE SAME PROTECTION.
....
THIS IS A BLOCKBUSTER GAME CHANGING AMENDMENT.
WHAT IS SELECTIVE INCORPORATION?
7:59 PM jennylamx93: what the constitution decides ....
of
rights?
Lisa: bill of rights protected under the 14th amendment
abell2012: isnt that rights in the constitution has to be in the states constitution??
tieraclark: is it anything to do w/ enforcement
Lisa: the states have to follow the U.S. constitution
8:00 PM me: YALL ARE CLOSE....JUST NAIL IT DOWN.
tieraclark: states have to enforce
me: ENFORCE WHAT?
tran.seph: bill of rights
tieraclark: states enforce amendments
abell2012: the inclusion of certain rights guaranteed by the constitution into state constitution
me: THANKS ASH.
8:01 PM BECAUSE OF THE DUE PROCESS CLAUSE, STATES HAVE TO UPHOLD THE BILL OF RIGHTS.
8:02 PM WHY WAS THIS INCLUDED IN THE 14TH AMENDMENT??
tieraclark: bc states went enforcing certain amendments into their state constitutions?
8:03 PM me: WHAT WAS HAPPENING WHEN THE 14TH AMEND WAS RATIFIED?
abell2012: because after the slavery states werent giving blacks their equal rights??
phinguyenper.8: recreating the country
abell2012: sorry typos
me: YUP. POST SLAVERY, THE SOUTHERN STATES WERE VIOLATING THE BILL OF RIGHTS.
GOOD GOOD.
8:04 PM WE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 14TH AMENDMENT AND SELECTIVE INC?
abell2012: yupp
ahoye95: selective inc is always aganist the state right.?
tieraclark: i think
ahoye95: like Aliyah V PA?
8:05 PM me: ALIYAH....ANY CASE WHERE A PERSON SUES A STATE FOR VIOLATING RIGHTS PROVIDES EVIDENCE OF SELECTIVE INC.
ahoye95: okay
8:06 PM me: ALSO WORTH MENTIONING THAT THE 14TH AMENDMENT VOIDED THE DRED SCOTT RULING.
8:07 PM SHALL WE TALK BUDGETARY PROCESS?
ahoye95: yes
abell2012: yes
tieraclark: yup
8:08 PM Lisa: yes
me: OK..WHO WRITES IT?
tran.seph: president
abell2012: prez
me: PRES...WITH HELP.
WHO HELPS?
tran.seph: cabinets
ahoye95: congress?
tran.seph: buracrats
8:09 PM abell2012: the bureaucratic
me: BUREAUCRATS AND CABINET SECS.
PRES AND BUREAUCRATS WRITE IT.
8:10 PM WHO APPROVES IT?
tran.seph: chouse of rep
jennylamx93: i thought they rarely have any
me: YES, HOUSE OF REPS AND SENATE.
jennylamx93: oh
nvm
me: HOW ARE POLITICS INVOLVED IN BUDGET FORMATION?
8:11 PM abell2012: democrats can buy votes by spending money??
me: DEMOCRATS?
8:12 PM abell2012: sorry ready it wrong politicans
tran.seph: buraucrats argue and debate what gets cut and what gets funded?
me: YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT SPENDING MONEY.
SPENDING MONEY = VOTES.
8:13 PM THE PRES WILL TRY TO BUDGET MONEY TO HELP VOTERS THEY ARE TRYING TO WOO.
CONGRESS WILL TRY TO SHOEHORN PORKBARREL LEGISLATION INTO THE BUDGET TO MAKE THEIR CONSTITUENTS HAPPY.
8:14 PM abell2012: wait in my notes i have politicians spend money to get votes, but then i have politicians compete by trying not to spend money. im confused. which one is better??
me: WHAT IS AN ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM?
ASH....
NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE NOTES MEAN.
abell2012: i'll come see ya tomorrow
me: COOL.
Lisa: logrolling?
8:15 PM tieraclark: i have no clue
abell2012: Social security and entitlement program?
phinguyenper.8: is the entitlement program when your entitled to benefits the government provides under their standards?
8:16 PM me: ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS: PROGRAMS WHERE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GIVING, BUT NOT HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'RE GIVING IT TO: (SOCIAL SEC, MEDICARE, MEDICAID)
THESE MAKE UP THE BIGGEST EXPENDITURE IN THE BUDGET.
WHAT IS THE BIGGEST SOURCE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS?
8:17 PM maamarbousseloub: income tax
jennylamx93: in the text, it talks about client poltiics, entrepenur, etc. but we didnt discuess those? so dont worry about them?
tieraclark: welfare?
abell2012: umm..taxes?
me: INCOME TAX.
tieraclark: oh no i meant income tax, read it wrong
me: JENNY.....NEVER SAW AN AP QUESTION ON THAT.
8:18 PM jennylamx93: ok
me: WHAT IS DISCRETIONARY SPENDING?
8:19 PM ....
tieraclark: spending done by congress?
me: NOT QUITE.
8:20 PM DISCRETIONARY SPENDING IS SPENDING THAT IS UP TO THE PRES AND CONGRESS.
phinguyenper.8: is that money the president have to spend?
oh..
me: MANDATORY SPENDING (REPAYING LOANS, ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS) ARE NOT.
8:21 PM jennylamx93: hmm.. test samples ?
me: OK HOLD PLEASE.....
IN MCCULLOCH V. MARYLAND, THE SUPREME COURT ESTABLISHED WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING PRINCIPLES?
8:22 PM ...
Lisa: that a state cannot tax a federal institution
because the power to tax is the power to destroy
me: WELL THANKS LISA....I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GIVE THE CHOICES.
!
8:23 PM tieraclark: _
Lisa: soorrrrry
jennylamx93: lol
Lisa: i thought you were asking us
me: THE ANSWER WOULD BE A. STATES CANNOT INTERFERE WITH OR TAX THE LEGITIMATE ACTIVITIES OF THE FEDERAL GOVT.
me: WE'RE AT FIVE MINUTES......
OTHER MATERIAL TO REVIEW? ANYTHING?
abell2012: should be know the reforms that were made?
8:25 PM jennylamx93: so questions that we will see about supreme court cases would be asked what the general case was about right?
me: YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE IMPOUNDMENT CONTROL ACT...
LIMITED THE PRESIDENT'S ABILITY TO IMPOUND FUNDS.
8:26 PM Lisa: any hints for the FRQ?
me: HINT!: CHART.
ahoye95: i hate charts :/
abell2012: :(
me: I HEART CHARTS.
YOU WILL DO FINE.
abell2012: booooo!!
Lisa: ew
8:27 PM me: HA.
Lisa: charts have cooties
me: JEN...ONLY GENERAL SC CASES.
jennylamx93: ok
8:28 PM me: ANYTHING ELSE? SAMARA? PHI? POPTARTS?
tran.seph: what time will you be in school tmrw?
8:29 PM phinguyenper.8: im fine
samaralcancel: Lol yeah I'm okay
me: 7:00AM AS USUAL. IF NOT IN RM. 305, CHECK CONFERENCE ROOM ON 1ST FLOOR.
8:30 PM OK, WELL I'M GOING TO BE SIGNING OFF.
