me: OK WE ARE AT 8:00PM. TYPE "HERE" IF YOU CAN SEE THIS.
jennylamx93: HERE
cheunglisa11: HEREE
abell2012: here!
chowhuiyanangel: here
michaeldavidson2012: Here
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8:01 PM samaralcancel: Here
me: K HOLD ON. HAVE TO FIX SOMETHING.
jennylamx93: sure tbhing
thing*
8:02 PM harristianas@gmail.com has joined
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me: OK. WELCOME TO THE CHAT.
8:03 PM TOMORROW'S EXAM IS ON THE CONGRESS CHAPTER OF THE TEXT.
THERE WILL BE 15 MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTIONS AND AN FRQ.
I WILL START BY TAKING REQUESTS FOR MATERIAL TO REVIEW
harristianas: Any definitions to study?
8:04 PM me: CERTAINLY. YOU NEED TO KNOW: ALL FIVE KINDS OF COMMITTEES, LOGROLLING, PORKBARREL, FILLIBUSTER, CLOTURE
8:05 PM VETO, LINE ITEM VETO AND POCKET VETO.
DOES ANYONE NEED CLARIFICATION ON THESE TERMS?
8:06 PM abell2012: im not to sure what cloture means
tran.seph: line veto is the thing what the president want right?
me: ASHLEY: A VOTE FOR CLOTURE ENDS A FILIBUSTER. SENATORS NEED 60% TO VOTE FOR CLOTURE.
8:07 PM abell2012: gotcha
me: JOE: PRESIDENTS WANT LINE ITEM VETOES, YES.
THEY DO NOT HAVE THEM.
LINE ITEM VETO = JUST SIGNING THE PARTS OF THE BILL YOU LIKE.
ARE WE CLEAR ON THE FIVE COMMITTEES?
8:08 PM tran.seph: theres 5 committees?
jennylamx93: may we breifly go over them
tran.seph: i thought there were plenty
me: 5 TYPES
8:09 PM STANDING, SELECT, JOINT, AND CONFERENCE
4 TYPES. SORRY.
8:10 PM (SINGS AMAZING GRACE)
michaeldavidson2012: Water Bottle Labibya
me: STANDING: COMMITTEE THAT IS ALWAYS THERE. EXAMPLE: WAYS AND MEANS
8:11 PM tran.seph: do we need to know specific examples of committees?
me: SELECT: COMMITTEE THERE FOR A SHORT TIME FOR A SPECIFIC PROBLEM
JOE: NOT REALLY
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8:12 PM me: JOINT: A COMMITTEE MADE UP OF BOTH SENATORS AND REPS.
8:13 PM CONFERENCE: A JOINT COMMITTEE THAT COMES TOGETHER TO COMPARE SIMILAR BILLS PASSED BY BOTH HOUSES AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT.
QUESTIONS ON THE FOUR TYPES OF COMMITTEES?
chowhuiyanangel: any hints for the FRQ?
me: ANGEL: NOPE.
tran.seph: so conference committees only exist when 2 diff bills are passed?
8:14 PM michaeldavidson2012: JERK
Just Kidding :)
brianarroberts: what were them
tran.seph: 2 diff versions of the same bill*
me: CONF. COMMITTEES EXIST WHEN THE 2 HOUSES PASS DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE SAME BILL.
8:15 PM harristianas: what is it called when they add things to a bill, like the xmas tree thing
me: GOOD QUESTION: AMENDMENTS AND RIDERS.
cheunglisa11: rider
brianarroberts: rider??
abell2012: christmas tree bill, right?
me: YES.
XMAS TREE BILLS HAVE MANY RIDERS
8:16 PM RIDERS CAN BE INCLUDED TO MORE VOTERS CONSIDER THE BILL.
brianarroberts: whats xmas tree bill??
me: AN XMAS TREE BILL IS A SLANG TERM FOR A BILL THAT HAS A LOT OF RIDERS AND AMENDMENTS TO IT
8:17 PM harristianas: porkbarrelling?
michaeldavidson2012: Mr.Pedone, if a person proposes a bill can he withdraw it if he doesnt like the changes made to it?
cheunglisa11: OH, can you give us feedback on the FRQ that we did for homework?
8:18 PM me: PORK BARREL LEGISLATION: BILLS OR AMENDMENTS PROPOSED TO BRING MONEY AND RESOURCES TO A REP'S HOME DISTRICT OR STATE?
IGNORE THAT ?
tran.seph: houdr
house*
8:20 PM me: MIKE: UNLIKELY. IT IS MORE LIKELY FOR SOMEONE TO WITHDRAW AN AMENDMENT TO A BILL. FOR EXAMPLE: http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=e6062ff9-de6c-4297-8134-8d96828502c8
FOR LISA: FRQ FEEDBACK.
8:22 PM cheunglisa11: Besides the number, what other advantages does the House have?
me: ADVANTAGES THE MAJORITY PARTY HAS OUTSIDE OF SHEER VOTING #:
cheunglisa11: majority*
me: AGENDA SETTING.
THE SPEAKER SETS THE AGENDA.
8:23 PM REFERRAL OF BILLS. APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
8:24 PM BASICALLY, ALL OF THE POWERS THAT COME WITH THE OFFICE OF SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE (WHICH IS ALWAYS FILLED BY A MAJORITY PARTY MEMBER)
MAKES SENSE?
abell2012: yup
brianarroberts: does the senate have any advantages??
cheunglisa11: yeup!
8:25 PM me: CERTAINLY. THE "SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE" IN THE SENATE IS CALLED THE "PRO TEMPORE".
chowhuiyanangel: oh
me: HE OR SHE HAS THE SAME POWERS AS THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE (THOUGH THEY SHARE IT WITH THE MAJORITY LEADER).
8:26 PM abell2012: ohhhhhhh
ok i get it
brianarroberts: will this be on the test??
me: BRIANA: YUP
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tran.seph: so the "pro tempore" isnt the majority leader?
8:28 PM me: PRO TEMP IS CUSTOMARILY THE LONGEST SERVING MAJORITY MEMBER. RIGHT NOW IT IS INOUYE FROM HAWAII. HARRY REID IS THE MAJORITY LEADER.
PRO TEMP IS POWERFUL, BUT MOSTLY CEREMONIAL.
8:29 PM MAJORITY LEADER IS VERY POWERFUL
MAKES SENSE?
brianarroberts: yes
8:30 PM tran.seph: yes sir
brianarroberts: are you going to give us practice questions??
me: COOL. BACK TO LISA...
FOR THE FRQ, PART B...
cheunglisa11: Describe two differences between House and Senate rules that may make it likely that legislation may pass in one chamber but not in the other.
8:31 PM me: THE BEST AND EASIEST WAY TO ANSWER THIS IS: FILIBUSTERS AND TERM LIMITS.
*LENGTH OF TERM.
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me: WE ALREADY COVERED HOW FILIBUSTERS CAN CAUSE DIFFICULTIES IN THE SENATE.
cheunglisa11: right
me: THE HOUSE TERM IS ONLY TWO YEARS AND EVERYONE IS UP FOR ELECTION AT THE SAME TIME.
8:33 PM THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR LONG STANDING COOPERATIVE COALITIONS TO LAST.
MAKES SENSE?
cheunglisa11: yes
8:34 PM me: AND THEN (C) IS JUST EXPLAINING.....
cheunglisa11: yeah, i got that
thanks!
8:35 PM me: WHAT'S NEXT?
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tran.seph: why would it be difficult for the coalition to last when it's supposedly easier for them to be elected back? (ie. the guy that we read about)
8:36 PM me: THOUGH THAT IS TRUE, SENATORS HAVE SIX YEAR TERMS, WHICH ALLOW FOR MORE ADVANCED PLANNING AND EXTENDED DEBATE.
8:37 PM PLUS, IF I'M A SENATOR WHO WILL NOT FACE ELECTION FOR 5 YEARS, I CAN SAFELY VOTE AGAINST A POPULAR BILL WITHOUT A LASHBACK FROM THE CONSTITUENTS.
brianarroberts: will the process of getting elected be on the test??
me: HOUSE REPS FACE ELECTION EVERY 2 YEARS. KEEPS THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
ELECTED TO WHAT, BRI?
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brianarroberts: into the house and senate
michaeldavidson2012: Sorry, the weather has my Internet going loopy.
8:39 PM me: NO, NOT REALLY. JUST KNOW: SENATE 6 YR TERM, HOUSE, 2 YR TERM.
brianarroberts: ok
me: CAN WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW A BILL BECOMES A LAW?
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brianarroberts: yes
cheunglisa11: yes
michaeldavidson2012: He sits on the capital steps.
8:40 PM and a little boy comes up to him
me: OK.
michaeldavidson2012: and then he sings a song!
tran.seph: Do we need to know specific names of anybody such as nancy polosy, the dude thats the SoH or gringridge who was so long ago? or who OUR congressesmen and house rep are?
me: THAT WAS A SPELLING APOCALYPSE.
michaeldavidson2012: Muahaha.
cheunglisa11: hhahaha
tran.seph: ahahaha i'm asian i do math not spelling
me: *PELOSI. *GINGRICH.
brianarroberts: lol
michaeldavidson2012: Racism
8:41 PM harristianas: not racism: generalization
michaeldavidson2012: Technically still racist.
me: ORDER! ORDER! (SLAPPING STUFFED ANIMAL FISH AGAINST DESK)
abell2012: please lets not debate this
michaeldavidson2012: GAVEL? DONT HARM HIM
tran.seph: aww come on everyone loves a good debate...
8:42 PM me: NO TIME.
abell2012: not now!
jennylamx93: review questions !
tran.seph: theres never any time :( okay so do we need to know specifics?
harristianas: no not really, he didn't say anything defaming Asian people..... but to Joe's question
me: JOE: YOU DO NOT NEED TO KNOW SPECIFIC ELECTED OFFICIALS, THOUGH YOU REALLY SHOULD.
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me: HOW A BILL BECOMES A LAW:
8:43 PM 1. DRAFTED
2. INTRODUCED TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
3. REFERRED TO A COMMITTEE BY THE SPEAKER
8:44 PM 4. DEBATED IN COMMITTEE AND SUBCOMMITTEE
5. REPORTED TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY (FAVORABLY/UNFAVORABLY)
6. IF FAVORABLE, STRUCTURED DEBATE
7. VOTE
8:45 PM 8. SENT TO OTHER HOUSE, REPEAT STEPS 2 - 7
QUESTIONS?
jennylamx93: nope
brianarroberts: what would this question look like
tran.seph: thats a lot of steps.
8:46 PM jennylamx93: practice questions please
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abell2012: would it be a question where we would have to figure out the correct order?
me: I WILL DO A PRACTICE QUESTION....HOLD PLEASE....
ASH: NOPE.
jennylamx93: okay
8:48 PM me: After a bill is introduced in the House of Representatives, what is the next step in the legislative process?
(a) The bill is introduced in the Senate because both houses of Congress must consider all proposed legislation.
(b) The bill is referred to a committee.
(c) The majority-party caucus votes whether or not to support the bill.
(d) The Speaker of the House decides whether to ignore the bill or take action.
(e) The bill dies unless a committee chair decides to “mark up” the bill.
(a) The bill is introduced in the Senate because both houses of Congress must consider all proposed legislation.
(b) The bill is referred to a committee.
(c) The majority-party caucus votes whether or not to support the bill.
(d) The Speaker of the House decides whether to ignore the bill or take action.
(e) The bill dies unless a committee chair decides to “mark up” the bill.
tran.seph: b
harristianas: d or b
michaeldavidson2012: B
jennylamx93: b
chowhuiyanangel: b
brianarroberts: b
abell2012: b
8:49 PM me: I CAN SEE WHY YOU SAY D OR B, TIANA. BUT THE ANSWER IS B.
8:50 PM michaeldavidson2012: I thought SOH only participates in event of tie?
harristianas: more question?
me: THE SPEAKER CANNOT OUT AND OUT REFUSE A BILL, BUT HE CAN EITHER ASSIGN IT TO A COMMITTEE LIKELY TO KILL IT OR SCHEDULE DEBATE OF THAT BILL SO LATE THAT THE HOUSE ADJOURNS BEFORE IT GETS TO IT.
8:51 PM MIKE: TRUE/
abell2012: ohh thats just sneaky
me: BUT
HIS/HER REAL POWER COMES IN THE FORM OF REFERRING BILLS AND SCHEDULING DEBATES.
ASH: AGREED
8:52 PM I TOLD YOU GUYS...THE SPEAKER IS SNEAKY POWERFUL.
HE OR SHE ALSO REPRESENTS A DISTRICT IN THE U.S. IMAGINE HAVING YOUR LOCAL CONGRESSMAN BE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE!
tran.seph: is there a way to impeach/eject/remove the SoH?
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8:54 PM me: NEWT WAS REMOVED AS SPEAKER, BUT RETAINED HIS SEAT.
abell2012: why?
me: SPEAKER IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE MAJORITY PARTY
ASH: COMPLICATED. LOOK IT UP.
harristianas: Gingrich because of his reputation
me: INTERESTING, THOUGH.
harristianas: he was a cheater
8:55 PM me: I SEE SOMEONE PULLED GINGRICH FOR THE GOP PROJECT....
WE'RE DOWN TO FIVE MINUTES HERE....
WHAT ELSE CAN WE COVER?
harristianas: more practice question
cheunglisa11: caucuses
8:56 PM me: OK CAUCUSES.
tran.seph: 5 minutes? so quick. feels like 4th period.
cheunglisa11: in thise case, it only means counting the congressmen's votes?
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me: A CAUCUS IS A GROUP OF LIKE MINDED CONGRESSMEN/SENATORS WHO FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT AN ISSUE.
8:57 PM OR THEY ARE PART OF THE SAME RELEVANT DEMOGRAPHIC.
cheunglisa11: ohh
8:58 PM me: FOR EXAMPLE, THERE MAY BE A CAUCUS OF REPS CONCERNED WITH URBAN POVERTY. THEY MIGHT BE IN EITHER PARTY OR HOUSE, BUT MAY MEET TOGETHER TO SHAPE LEGISLATION TO FURTHER THEIR CAUSE.
8:59 PM MOST POWERFUL CAUCUS CURRENTLY IS THE BLACK CONGRESSIONAL CAUCUS, WHICH IS MADE UP OF AFRICAN AMERICAN REPS AND SENATORS.
9:00 PM OK EVERYBODY, NICE WORK TONIGHT!
tran.seph: this was so quick. it felt like i was on here for 5 minutes.
9:01 PM michaeldavidson2012: Mr.Pedone, on behalf of the stuffed animal's rights committee, I'm going to have to ask you to stop abusing the fish.
abell2012: good luck on the test everyone! Good night!
me: I'M GOING TO BE SIGNING OFF HERE. THANKS FOR ATTENDING. FEEL FREE TO STAY ON AND KEEP DISCUSSING IF YOU LIKE.
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